Post by brasilbear on Nov 24, 2016 9:17:04 GMT -6
Whole thing is here. But I just want to comment on this question and reference a point he made above it.
Marc Trestman in two seasons was 13-19. John Fox is 8-18 and his record will likely be worse after two seasons. Talent is about the same. Why is Fox’s job safe? -- @mustbilljacuzzi
I received this question in about four different forms this week and it’s been talked about on the radio as well. I get it. Everyone is out for blood after another Bears season gone bad. They want someone to pay for a rotten season. They want someone to meet their professional demise as payback for the investment of time, emotions and disposable income in a team that has gone from mediocre to worse. Reality is if the Bears continue to cycle through head coaches and general managers, they will become the Browns. Or they will become the Raiders (prior to this season). Those franchises put the pedal to the metal when it comes to turnover in the front office and on the coaching side of things and they’ve paid a high price. Is that reason alone to keep Fox? No. But Fox’s team has deal with more injuries than Trestman’s did and things haven’t become completely unhinged inside Halas Hall. Also, consider the Bears have paid Trestman for 2015 and they are paying him for this season. That means two years of paying two head coaches. Fox is signed through the 2018 season. If they launch him after this season, the McCaskeys will wind up paying two head coaches for four consecutive seasons. That seems unlikely, doesn’t it?
Prior to that Biggs said this:
Look at what the Kansas City Chiefs did. Andy Reid inherited a bad roster that was coming off a miserable 2-14 season in 2012. The Chiefs didn’t even hit on the No. 1 overall pick they got -- offensive lineman Eric Fisher -- and they went 11-5 the following season. A teardown on the fly can be accomplished. It’s certainly not easy and it’s not going to be easy for the Bears to build this back up. But it’s the NFL and turnarounds can be completed in shorter periods of time than you think of with other sports.
To me, Biggs gave the reason to fire Fox. Fast turn arounds are possible, and if you don't try you end up with Fisher setting the record for losses as a HC. What is Fox going to do next season that will be different from this season? What have we seen that gives anyone hope that he can turn this around? It can't get worse. But it can stay bad. So...keep Fox, go ahead and draft that kicker in the 4th round, pick a day 3 QB..."we're so glad you wanted to stay with us here in the basement, here's your room key."
Marc Trestman in two seasons was 13-19. John Fox is 8-18 and his record will likely be worse after two seasons. Talent is about the same. Why is Fox’s job safe? -- @mustbilljacuzzi
I received this question in about four different forms this week and it’s been talked about on the radio as well. I get it. Everyone is out for blood after another Bears season gone bad. They want someone to pay for a rotten season. They want someone to meet their professional demise as payback for the investment of time, emotions and disposable income in a team that has gone from mediocre to worse. Reality is if the Bears continue to cycle through head coaches and general managers, they will become the Browns. Or they will become the Raiders (prior to this season). Those franchises put the pedal to the metal when it comes to turnover in the front office and on the coaching side of things and they’ve paid a high price. Is that reason alone to keep Fox? No. But Fox’s team has deal with more injuries than Trestman’s did and things haven’t become completely unhinged inside Halas Hall. Also, consider the Bears have paid Trestman for 2015 and they are paying him for this season. That means two years of paying two head coaches. Fox is signed through the 2018 season. If they launch him after this season, the McCaskeys will wind up paying two head coaches for four consecutive seasons. That seems unlikely, doesn’t it?
Prior to that Biggs said this:
Look at what the Kansas City Chiefs did. Andy Reid inherited a bad roster that was coming off a miserable 2-14 season in 2012. The Chiefs didn’t even hit on the No. 1 overall pick they got -- offensive lineman Eric Fisher -- and they went 11-5 the following season. A teardown on the fly can be accomplished. It’s certainly not easy and it’s not going to be easy for the Bears to build this back up. But it’s the NFL and turnarounds can be completed in shorter periods of time than you think of with other sports.
To me, Biggs gave the reason to fire Fox. Fast turn arounds are possible, and if you don't try you end up with Fisher setting the record for losses as a HC. What is Fox going to do next season that will be different from this season? What have we seen that gives anyone hope that he can turn this around? It can't get worse. But it can stay bad. So...keep Fox, go ahead and draft that kicker in the 4th round, pick a day 3 QB..."we're so glad you wanted to stay with us here in the basement, here's your room key."