Moose Muhammad had it wrong. This isn't a team where WRs come to die. This is a team were young QBs are either stillborn or terminated at birth. If I was a hot young QB I would pray not to be drafted by the Bears. If we did maybe he'd pull an Elway or an Eli Manning and try to force a trade.
Let's say Trubisky is THE guy in this years draft and we somehow manage to draft him but he refuses to sign with the Bears. Now THAT would be the ultimate embarrassment. What would you all think about our prospects then? It's not like it's never happened before.
Moose Muhammad had it wrong. This isn't a team where WRs come to die. This is a team were young QBs are either stillborn or terminated at birth. If I was a hot young QB I would pray not to be drafted by the Bears. If we did maybe he'd pull an Elway or an Eli Manning and try to force a trade.
Let's say Trubisky is THE guy in this years draft and we somehow manage to draft him but he refuses to sign with the Bears. Now THAT would be the ultimate embarrassment. What would you all think about our prospects then? It's not like it's never happened before.
Shit Soul. That's easy. We bring Emery back into the fold and he makes Trubisky a deal he can't refuse.
Moose Muhammad had it wrong. This isn't a team where WRs come to die. This is a team were young QBs are either stillborn or terminated at birth. If I was a hot young QB I would pray not to be drafted by the Bears. If we did maybe he'd pull an Elway or an Eli Manning and try to force a trade.
Let's say Trubisky is THE guy in this years draft and we somehow manage to draft him but he refuses to sign with the Bears. Now THAT would be the ultimate embarrassment. What would you all think about our prospects then? It's not like it's never happened before.
Shit Soul. That's easy. We bring Emery back into the fold and he makes Trubisky a deal he can't refuse.
I just read this article where Lewis calls out Flacco for a lack of passion.
I think you could remove Flacco and insert Cutler in there in almost all cases.
Ray Lewis questions Joe Flacco's passion; QB responds
By Jeremy Bergman NFL.com Published: Nov. 18, 2016 at 06:21 p.m. Updated: Nov. 18, 2016 at 06:27 p.m.
"Is Joe Flacco elite?" is so 2013. The hottest debate in the streets is apparently "Is Joe Flacco passionate?"
Ahead of Sunday's clash with the Cowboys, the always soft-spoken quarterback drew the ire of an unlikely source in that regard: his former teammate, linebacker Ray Lewis.
"There is something called talent, right, and you see it a dime a dozen. Then there's something called being passionate about what you do, about really what you do," Lewis explained on FS1's Speak For Yourself on Thursday. "Me being around that... Gifted? Absolutely. Passionate about what he does? I've never seen that. I don't know what that looks like."
Lewis would know a little something about passion; his legendary pregame entrance is oft-imitated and revered as sacred performance art league-wide. Not to mention that the future Hall of Famer also played every snap of football like his life depended on it. While what provoked Lewis' diatribe about his former quarterback's cool demeanor isn't clear -- he was originally asked why Flacco had been inconsistent -- the linebacker clearly had to get something off his chest.
"He's always isolating himself to go sit on the bench, never talking to anybody after a big play, bad play, whatever it is. Teammates figure out how to create this core that we all get along. Then there's a fact, right? Some people will be co-workers, some people will be teammates, some people you may call friends. I call Joe Flacco a teammate; we won a Super Bowl together. What the Ravens have is a Steve Smith, is a Mike Wallace, is different personalities now that can make him rally because that's the only thing that can really bring him out of that.
"I don't know how many times you hear somebody really just go out on a limb to defend, He's the greatest teammate I've ever had. ... Maybe his personality is just not that personality. He's not a ra-ra guy; he won't say much. But still, in the game of football, there has to be some burning fire behind you, there has to be something that speaks that is bigger than me. This is us, this is a core. Whether you understood that I used to do or why I used to do it, sometimes I didn't ra-ra for me. Sometimes I ra-ra because my boys need to ra-ra."
Flacco caught wind of Lewis' comments and went on SiriusXM's Schein on Sports on Friday to read between the lines.
"It's something that I've always dealt with. It's my personality," Flacco said when asked about Lewis' comments. "When things are going well, people are asking why it's a good thing. When things aren't going well, they want to question you and different parts of your game. I'm not going to sit here and talk too much about it. It is what it is. Ray can think what he thinks. I'm here to lead these guys, keep us on top and keep us moving forward."
No one has ever argued that Flacco was an inspiring sideline presence, akin to Tom Brady or Russell Wilson. But it's interesting to hear from someone who knew him well that Flacco's lax attitude is actually a detriment to the team.
Post by tragicslip on Nov 21, 2016 11:10:51 GMT -6
Cutler made some throws against NY that i doubt any other QB in the league could make. Our coaches have consistently failed in the second half, and over the course of the game we lost our only starting guard and best receiving threat. that is after losing the right side of the line and alshon before the game began.
Howard 1st to 2nd half is on the coaching staff. Manning had a terrible near pick six when he sniffed pressure. I admit he moved well in the pocket but that was against 4 man rush. seeing the crazy throw he made try bringing pressure. Manning will make a mistake. bring a LB that would otherwise cover a back out of the backfield. Screens and misdirection was not there 2nd half from Giants because it didn't work in the first half.
I just read this article where Lewis calls out Flacco for a lack of passion.
I think you could remove Flacco and insert Cutler in there in almost all cases.
Ray Lewis questions Joe Flacco's passion; QB responds
By Jeremy Bergman NFL.com Published: Nov. 18, 2016 at 06:21 p.m. Updated: Nov. 18, 2016 at 06:27 p.m.
"Is Joe Flacco elite?" is so 2013. The hottest debate in the streets is apparently "Is Joe Flacco passionate?"
Ahead of Sunday's clash with the Cowboys, the always soft-spoken quarterback drew the ire of an unlikely source in that regard: his former teammate, linebacker Ray Lewis.
"There is something called talent, right, and you see it a dime a dozen. Then there's something called being passionate about what you do, about really what you do," Lewis explained on FS1's Speak For Yourself on Thursday. "Me being around that... Gifted? Absolutely. Passionate about what he does? I've never seen that. I don't know what that looks like."
Lewis would know a little something about passion; his legendary pregame entrance is oft-imitated and revered as sacred performance art league-wide. Not to mention that the future Hall of Famer also played every snap of football like his life depended on it. While what provoked Lewis' diatribe about his former quarterback's cool demeanor isn't clear -- he was originally asked why Flacco had been inconsistent -- the linebacker clearly had to get something off his chest.
"He's always isolating himself to go sit on the bench, never talking to anybody after a big play, bad play, whatever it is. Teammates figure out how to create this core that we all get along. Then there's a fact, right? Some people will be co-workers, some people will be teammates, some people you may call friends. I call Joe Flacco a teammate; we won a Super Bowl together. What the Ravens have is a Steve Smith, is a Mike Wallace, is different personalities now that can make him rally because that's the only thing that can really bring him out of that.
"I don't know how many times you hear somebody really just go out on a limb to defend, He's the greatest teammate I've ever had. ... Maybe his personality is just not that personality. He's not a ra-ra guy; he won't say much. But still, in the game of football, there has to be some burning fire behind you, there has to be something that speaks that is bigger than me. This is us, this is a core. Whether you understood that I used to do or why I used to do it, sometimes I didn't ra-ra for me. Sometimes I ra-ra because my boys need to ra-ra."
Flacco caught wind of Lewis' comments and went on SiriusXM's Schein on Sports on Friday to read between the lines.
"It's something that I've always dealt with. It's my personality," Flacco said when asked about Lewis' comments. "When things are going well, people are asking why it's a good thing. When things aren't going well, they want to question you and different parts of your game. I'm not going to sit here and talk too much about it. It is what it is. Ray can think what he thinks. I'm here to lead these guys, keep us on top and keep us moving forward."
No one has ever argued that Flacco was an inspiring sideline presence, akin to Tom Brady or Russell Wilson. But it's interesting to hear from someone who knew him well that Flacco's lax attitude is actually a detriment to the team.
Here we go again. Just one more former pro telling another he should be more like me.
The guy has won a SB and he still gets dissed just a Cutler does and all because they don't behave or lead as others think they should. It sure is strange their current teammates don't see these guys to be such a detriment to their team but there's no lack of opinions when a former player gets a mic shoved in front of him. What a load of crap.
Let's take Philip Rivers then. He may be one of the most outspoken, trash talking, emotional QBs in the NFL. How many Super Bowl rings has he won? He hasn't even won more playoff games than he's lost. Leadership can come far more from what you do than what you say.
Cutler made some throws against NY that i doubt any other QB in the league could make. Our coaches have consistently failed in the second half, and over the course of the game we lost our only starting guard and best receiving threat. that is after losing the right side of the line and alshon before the game began.
Howard 1st to 2nd half is on the coaching staff. Manning had a terrible near pick six when he sniffed pressure. I admit he moved well in the pocket but that was against 4 man rush. seeing the crazy throw he made try bringing pressure. Manning will make a mistake. bring a LB that would otherwise cover a back out of the backfield. Screens and misdirection was not there 2nd half from Giants because it didn't work in the first half.
Well for one I'd love to see Hoyer or many other QBs even attempt that TD pass to Miller as covered as he was. It had to be perfect to work and it was with both accuracy and touch. I doubt they'd have even attempted it without Cutler throwing it.
Eli gets a pass when Amos drops a pick that was right in his hands but with Cutler we're supposed to count picks AND almost picks. To be honest I'll be happy to see him leave just so I don't have to read that crap any longer. Cutler outplayed Eli yesterday and we have posters here who want to give a game ball to our f'ing punter. (facepalm x2)
With the exception of the Minny game we have yet to play 60 minutes of solid offensive football without stepping on our dicks for the other 30 minutes because we either don't or simply can't make the needed adjustments after halftime. How many games have we led at the half only to get trounced in the 3rd and 4th quarter due to a lack of offense?
