I'm not saying keep Nagy or that I even like him, but he could still learn. He could improve as HC and I don't see them firing him with a winning record and POs. He'll get fired with a losing record, that's for sure. I'm just saying that he could learn and stop being this stubborn with his playcalling. He is the HC, he has to overlook the whole roster. A roster he hasn't lost, just shitty playcalling. All while it looks the OC can do it better - which may be the big problem here for him.
As JABF posted, Nagy apparently had a come-to-Jesus meeting with the players after the Cleveland debacle asking for their input. I would imagine he heard a lot of things that were difficult for him to hear. I would guess that being pushed to the point of where he was about to lose the locker room finally help convince him to shift gears both at playcalling and QB1.
I'm not saying keep Nagy or that I even like him, but he could still learn. He could improve as HC and I don't see them firing him with a winning record and POs. He'll get fired with a losing record, that's for sure. I'm just saying that he could learn and stop being this stubborn with his playcalling. He is the HC, he has to overlook the whole roster. A roster he hasn't lost, just shitty playcalling. All while it looks the OC can do it better - which may be the big problem here for him.
As JABF posted, Nagy apparently had a come-to-Jesus meeting with the players after the Cleveland debacle asking for their input. I would imagine he heard a lot of things that were difficult for him to hear. I would guess that being pushed to the point of where he was about to lose the locker room finally help convince him to shift gears both at playcalling and QB1.
yep, but that may be a huge step in Nagy improving as HC. That way he may end up seen better by players and with a good coaching staff around him, this all could work well. He'd be there for his input and as the leader, but to become all this he still has ways to go. That's what I'm saying.
As JABF posted, Nagy apparently had a come-to-Jesus meeting with the players after the Cleveland debacle asking for their input. I would imagine he heard a lot of things that were difficult for him to hear. I would guess that being pushed to the point of where he was about to lose the locker room finally help convince him to shift gears both at playcalling and QB1.
yep, but that may be a huge step in Nagy improving as HC. That way he may end up seen better by players and with a good coaching staff around him, this all could work well. He'd be there for his input and as the leader, but to become all this he still has ways to go. That's what I'm saying.
+1
That is my hope also. This could be a really good thing. Of course only time will tell. But I'm going to be positive about this. If Nagy ends up being a good HC, and not trying to be the OC calling plays, then that's great.
Post by britishbearfan on Oct 13, 2021 14:24:17 GMT -6
I’m less down on Pace than Nagy. And it does look like he was proved right in cutting those players. But he did also sign two of them in the first place 😎
I’m less down on Pace than Nagy. And it does look like he was proved right in cutting those players. But he did also sign two of them in the first place 😎
In fairness, Trufant was a flyer and worth the look as insurance if Vildor didn't preform. Buster did his job well enough while he was here and was never expected to be a long term solution.
Now we can criticize his draft picks in replacing them, specifically Shelley and Thomas Graham (though, he deserves more time) in replacing Skrine.
As far as replacing Fuller, and really Prince, I'd say he's done well. Jaylon has replaced Fuller and Vildor looks like an adequate Amukamara replacement.
Now, we can definitely criticize his work on the offense – especially OT, WR, and TE.
I’m less down on Pace than Nagy. And it does look like he was proved right in cutting those players. But he did also sign two of them in the first place 😎
In fairness, Trufant was a flyer and worth the look as insurance if Vildor didn't preform. Buster did his job well enough while he was here and was never expected to be a long term solution.
Now we can criticize his draft picks in replacing them, specifically Shelley and Thomas Graham (though, he deserves more time) in replacing Skrine.
As far as replacing Fuller, and really Prince, I'd say he's done well. Jaylon has replaced Fuller and Vildor looks like an adequate Amukamara replacement.
Now, we can definitely criticize his work on the offense – especially OT, WR, and TE.
Its amazing the secondary has held up as well as it has so far, particularly Vildor and Shelley (both of who were late round picks).
But don't pop the champagne corks just yet. The pass rush has been really good which has helped the secondary a lot and we fortunately haven't had any injuries.
In fairness, Trufant was a flyer and worth the look as insurance if Vildor didn't preform. Buster did his job well enough while he was here and was never expected to be a long term solution.
Now we can criticize his draft picks in replacing them, specifically Shelley and Thomas Graham (though, he deserves more time) in replacing Skrine.
As far as replacing Fuller, and really Prince, I'd say he's done well. Jaylon has replaced Fuller and Vildor looks like an adequate Amukamara replacement.
Now, we can definitely criticize his work on the offense – especially OT, WR, and TE.
Its amazing the secondary has held up as well as it has so far, particularly Vildor and Shelley (both of who were late round picks).
But don't pop the champagne corks just yet. The pass rush has been really good which has helped the secondary a lot and we fortunately haven't had any injuries.
It's early still
Those two units tend to work hand and glove with one another though, don't they? I mean, Fuller wasn't special to start his career and it definitely felt like he started to come on when the pass rush improved. And it's not like the defensive pressure hasn't benefited from a coverage sack or two this year. I'm in no way saying we have an elite secondary, but we have two ascending corners.
Vildor is a better man CB than zone, but more reps he'll, hopefully, develop better instincts.
I am (still) worried about Shelley and hope Graham is developing on the PS and can be a breakout candidate next season.
The defensive secondary drives me nuts. Too many blown coverages. On the plus side, Quinn is playing much better. If Hicks can come back healthy, our front-7 will really be a force. Now, if the offense ever gets working……..
The defensive secondary drives me nuts. Too many blown coverages. On the plus side, Quinn is playing much better. If Hicks can come back healthy, our front-7 will really be a force. Now, if the offense ever gets working……..
This is why I'm still upset with BoJax. He's the leader of the secondary, he's supposed to be responsible for the communication on the back end, right? Regardless if it's his zone or not, I put the responsibility on him to make sure those young guys know what they are doing.