Post by riczaj01 on Dec 7, 2020 20:06:09 GMT -6
Obviously a shit ton can and will change, and there are always tradeup/downs and the draft is hardly set in stone.
But in Charlies WF draft he has 3 qb's taken in the top 10, and one of those teams is DC; not sure I buy into that w/Haskins drafted just last year. It would mean they would have to trade him to someone that wants him, and that could mean one of the other teams looking to draft a qb. But assuming there is a guaranteed 2 qb's taken in the top 10, and the Bears are drafting just outside of it(somewhere around 12 currently). I could see them go QB 1st and OT 2nd.
If they do that could mean they end up w/Trey Lance; but would the Bears, even w/a new GM/HC want to put their trust in another inexperienced qb from a small school? Or would they be more willing to wait until the 2nd and hoping a guy like Trask or Wilson fall to them(which is always possible if 4 qb's go in the first). That would allow them a shot at a top 5 OT along the lines of:
walterfootball.com/draft2021OT.php
Penei Sewell*, OT, Oregon
Height: 6-6. Weight: 325.
Projected 40 Time: 5.
Projected Round (2021): Top-16.
View Ranking History
11/14/20: Sewell has announced he is entering the 2021 NFL Draft. He is not re-joining Oregon.
Sewell had a dominant sophomore season as the blind-side protector for Justin Herbert. Possessing good size, length and athleticism, Sewell has a good skill set that could end up making him one of the top prospects for the 2021 NFL Draft. For his excellent 2019 season, Sewell won the Outland Trophy and was the Pac-12 co-offensive player of the year. Sewell was a shutdown pass protector as a freshman as well, not allowing a sack in over 926 snaps. He only was credited with allowing seven pressures and two hits all season.
In pass protection, Sewell has the skill set to be a dependable edge protector. He is a good athlete with real quickness on the edge. Sewell pops out of his stance, gets his hands into the chest of defenders, and has quick feet to play the typewriter and cut off the edge from speed rushers. He shows enough strength and quality hands to sustain blocks while being able to neutralize second efforts. His agility, footwork, and quickness make him a smooth mover in space. On screens, kick out blocks, and zone runs, Sewell constantly shows that he is natural in space.
Sewell is not an overpowering run blocker who bulls defenders off the ball, but he scraps with attitude and is effective. Sewell uses his size and strength to manipulate and turn defenders to tie them up and keep them from getting on tackles. He is dangerous firing to the second level, and he will get nasty overwhelming linebackers or defensive backs with violence. It would help Sewell to continue to get stronger for battling NFL defensive linemen, but he could function in a power-man or zone-blocking scheme.
Alex Leatherwood, OT, Alabama
Height: 6-6. Weight: 322.
Projected 40 Time: 5.34.
Projected Round (2021): 1.
View Ranking History
11/14/20: Thus far in 2020, Leatherwood has played well for Alabama. Team sources say he has shown improvement but still has some issues to clean up for the NFL. He needs some work in the run game as he is a position-and-wall-off guy rather than a people mover. Leatherwood has problems when it's time to get physical. However, he has shown well in pass protection as a senior and the NFL is a passing-driven league.
Leatherwood has good feet, athleticism, excellent size, and length. Evaluators think he is good to cover up speed rushers as Leatherwood is so long and athletic it is difficult to get around him. Thus, they think given his excellent skill set at a premium position he will be a first-round pick and could go in the top-20.
Leatherwood played well for Alabama in 2019, showing he has a first-round skill set of size, quickness and athleticism. Taking on LSU, Leatherwood showed that he still needs some development in his technique, with Tigers edge rusher K'Lavon Chaisson giving Leatherwood some problems. Leatherwood was wise return to school to improve before going pro, but he has a lot of upside and the skill set to be special. As an underclassman he played inside and at tackle, including time against Georgia in the college football playoff at the end of the 2017 season in replacement of an injured Jonah Williams.
Sam Cosmi, OT, Texas
Height: 6-6. Weight: 295.
Projected 40 Time: 5.1.
Projected Round (2021): 1-3.
View Ranking History
11/14/20: Last fall, team sources told me they liked Cosmi and thought he was a better prospect than Connor Williams was at Texas. They felt Cosmi was raw and needing development, but athletically, he was an interesting prospect. Cosmi needs to get stronger for the NFL. Team sources believed he needed to go back to school if he wanted to be a secure first-round pick in his draft class, and Cosmi wisely decided to go back to Austin for his senior year.
In speaking to to team sources who saw Cosmi to open the 2020 season, they said that Cosmi looks like has added some good weight and he looks better physically. Cosmi has blocked well for Texas and could stand to continue to get even stronger for the next level.
As a redshirt freshman, Cosmi earned a starting spot at right tackle for the Longhorns and had an impressive debut. He did a good job in pass protection, showing some length and athleticism on the edge. For the NFL, it would help Cosmi to get stronger, but as a young player, he probably will add weight and strength as he ages and gains more experience. Cosmi was placed on NFL teams' preseason watch list in 2019, with some evaluators believing he had the potential to go in the top half of the 2020 NFL Draft.
Jalen Mayfield*, OT, Michigan
Height: 6-5. Weight: 319.
Projected 40 Time: 5.1.
Projected Round (2021): 1-3.
View Ranking History
11/14/20: Mayfield has played well to open 2020.
Michigan's Jalen Mayfield was perhaps the only offensive lineman who was truly impressive versus Chase Young in 2019. In plenty of one-on-one matchups, Mayfield got the better of Young, and there were other plays where Young had Mayfield on the ropes but the young Wolverine was able to recover in time to keep Young from making his typical game-changing plays. It was a breakout performance for the Wolverines right tackle to conclude the regular season.
What really jumps out about Mayfield is his quickness and athleticism on the edge to neutralize speed rushers. Mayfield is very quick out of his stance as he fires back or forward with explosion off the ball. With speed and agility, Mayfield instantly gets good depth in his drop and is able to play the typewriter with his feet to mirror speed rushers.
In the ground game, Mayfield is a solid contributor at the point of attack. He is not an overpowering road grader like Brandon Scherff was coming out of Iowa, and Mayfield is not as good of a run blocker as Andrew Thomas was at Georgia or Jedrick Wills was at Alabama, but Mayfield is dependable to execute his assignment. He has the strength to control, turn, and manipulate defenders at the point of attack. Mayfield is quick to the second level and able to kick out to the perimeter.
There are aspects of Mayfield's game that need improvement, and he should improve his technique for taking on NFL defensive linemen. At times, Mayfield lunges after defenders, which can get his weight too far over his toes. That leads to him missing some blocks in space especially. There are also times where he gives up up ground in bull rushes. He gets too wide with his hands, and that allows defenders to get into his chest to rock him back.
Liam Eichenberg, OT, Notre Dame
Height: 6-6. Weight: 305.
Projected 40 Time: 5.25.
Projected Round (2021): 1-3.
View Ranking History
11/14/20: Eichenberg has played well for Notre Dame thus far in 2020. Multiple evaluators said they graded Eichenberg as a late second- or early third-round pick. They feel the 6-foot-6, 305-pounder is a solid football player, but they do not feel he has the skill set of a first-round pick or a top-20 player. Eichenberg is not viewed as the same caliber of athlete as the five 2020 offensive tackles qho went in the top 20 of the first round: Andrew Thomas, Jedrick Wills, Mekhi Becton, Tristan Wirfs and Austin Jackson. But every year some teams take second-day graded players late in the first round, and Eichenberg could be a candidate for that as he looks like a safe pick to be a solid pro.
Eichenberg was solid, but not overly impressive, for Notre Dame in 2019. He was wise to return for his senior year. Eichenberg was dominated by Michigan edge rusher Chase Winovich in the 2018 season opener, but after that, Eichenberg was much better for the Fighting Irish. Eichenberg possesses some physical talent, but he needs to improve his ability to handle speed rushers at the next level. He was wise to go back to improve at Notre Dame before heading to the NFL.
Eichenberg won the left tackle job for 2018 as the replacement for Mike McGlinchey. Initially during the spring of 2018, Eichenberg was going to be competing at right tackle for Notre Dame, but he outperformed teammate Robert Hainsey, among others, to take the left tackle spot. Eichenberg has a lot of ability, and it will be interesting to see how he develops as he gains experience.
In that same Charlie draft Cosie goes right after the Bears, who he has drafting a WR(not likely). they know they need to fix that OL, you would think mock draft guys would know they need a qb/OT before a WR, even if they do let ARob go. Although it's completely possible they could get a top 5 OT drafting them in the 2nd also, or they could get a guy like this if they did go QB First:
Walker Little, OT, Stanford
Height: 6-7. Weight: 304.
Projected 40 Time: 5.4.
Projected Round (2021): 2-4.
View Ranking History
11/14/20: Little decided to sit out the 2020 season, which was a questionable decision as he will basically enter the NFL having missed two straight seasons of football. That hurts and slows down his development significantly.
Little was injured in the fourth quarter of the season opener in 2019, which ended his year. Little was impressive as a freshman starter at left tackle for Stanford in 2017. He did an effective job in run blocking and helped running back Bryce Love to a huge season. Little was solid as a sophomore and showed an improved ability to protect the passer, doing a respectable job in keeping pressure off of quarterback K.J. Costello.
In pass protection, Little is tough to beat for edge rushers. He has good length and strength, and is able to bend at the knee. Little sets up well to take on rushers, and once he gets a hold of defenders, they are in trouble. His length and strength allow him to sustain blocks to the whistle, and he is very difficult for rushers to shed. His long arms and strong upper body also give him an edge in recover-ability, so even when he is slightly out of position, he can compensate by getting enough of the rushers to give his quarterback time to throw.
Generally, Little is very dependable to not allow pressure. He has good hand placement and is intelligent to recognize how defenses are attacking the edge. Little also flashes some nastiness as a pass blocker, and it is not uncommon to see him grab a rusher in the chest and throw them to the ground with ferocity. Little sets a physical presence and is a real battler who makes it a long day for edge rushers to match up against.
Little is a plus run blocker for a left tackle. He is a fighter who has some nastiness to him. He definitely is not a finesse left tackle who shies away from getting violent with defenders. Little can get into the chest of defensive linemen and get a push on them at times. At other times, he uses his length to turn and manipulate defenders to keep them out of the play. In the ground game, Little could stand to improve his ability to stay on his feet. Too often, he stumbles and falls to a knee at the second level or trying to push a defender.
The Bears are set up nicely for this draft if they decide to go qb/ot or ot/qb. If the Bears fix the OL then Foles can be the starter for at least part of the season until the rookie qb is ready, or as his backup if the rookie is day 1 ready. Find an OT and a RT in FA and the OL is ready to compete if Bars/Mustafar are competing for the RG starting spot(which they've earned the right to). Rookie, Daniels, Whitehair, Bars/Mustafar, vet FA(RT draftee next year) and you have the makings of a good young OL for years to come.
The rest of the draft can be dedicated to the def, and early next years draft can be def minded also, outside of looking for WR help. You can get legit solid play for a 3-4 ILB in the 3rd-4th rounds, and next year you can be looking for an edge rusher in rd's 1-2, as well as DT/NT help, they have Nichols/RRH and Goldman those are all still legit quality on the DL. OLB-NT(Quinn/Hicks) replacements and maybe the year after that another olb for Macks replacement.
Team is still in very good shape if they are smart and draft well. What you cannot see is big splashy FA moves the next yr. 2021 before cuts, 2.5mil in cap space, 2022 is back up to 86mil, 2023 200+ mil in cap. Hit on LT and QB and RT, get a few contributors on def in the draft in the next 2 years as well as a WR or 2 and a RT and the team is already up and running in 2022 w/the ability to fix wholes they missed via FA.
I know this is qb only thread, sorry went a bit crazy looking around.
But in Charlies WF draft he has 3 qb's taken in the top 10, and one of those teams is DC; not sure I buy into that w/Haskins drafted just last year. It would mean they would have to trade him to someone that wants him, and that could mean one of the other teams looking to draft a qb. But assuming there is a guaranteed 2 qb's taken in the top 10, and the Bears are drafting just outside of it(somewhere around 12 currently). I could see them go QB 1st and OT 2nd.
If they do that could mean they end up w/Trey Lance; but would the Bears, even w/a new GM/HC want to put their trust in another inexperienced qb from a small school? Or would they be more willing to wait until the 2nd and hoping a guy like Trask or Wilson fall to them(which is always possible if 4 qb's go in the first). That would allow them a shot at a top 5 OT along the lines of:
walterfootball.com/draft2021OT.php
Penei Sewell*, OT, Oregon
Height: 6-6. Weight: 325.
Projected 40 Time: 5.
Projected Round (2021): Top-16.
View Ranking History
11/14/20: Sewell has announced he is entering the 2021 NFL Draft. He is not re-joining Oregon.
Sewell had a dominant sophomore season as the blind-side protector for Justin Herbert. Possessing good size, length and athleticism, Sewell has a good skill set that could end up making him one of the top prospects for the 2021 NFL Draft. For his excellent 2019 season, Sewell won the Outland Trophy and was the Pac-12 co-offensive player of the year. Sewell was a shutdown pass protector as a freshman as well, not allowing a sack in over 926 snaps. He only was credited with allowing seven pressures and two hits all season.
In pass protection, Sewell has the skill set to be a dependable edge protector. He is a good athlete with real quickness on the edge. Sewell pops out of his stance, gets his hands into the chest of defenders, and has quick feet to play the typewriter and cut off the edge from speed rushers. He shows enough strength and quality hands to sustain blocks while being able to neutralize second efforts. His agility, footwork, and quickness make him a smooth mover in space. On screens, kick out blocks, and zone runs, Sewell constantly shows that he is natural in space.
Sewell is not an overpowering run blocker who bulls defenders off the ball, but he scraps with attitude and is effective. Sewell uses his size and strength to manipulate and turn defenders to tie them up and keep them from getting on tackles. He is dangerous firing to the second level, and he will get nasty overwhelming linebackers or defensive backs with violence. It would help Sewell to continue to get stronger for battling NFL defensive linemen, but he could function in a power-man or zone-blocking scheme.
Alex Leatherwood, OT, Alabama
Height: 6-6. Weight: 322.
Projected 40 Time: 5.34.
Projected Round (2021): 1.
View Ranking History
11/14/20: Thus far in 2020, Leatherwood has played well for Alabama. Team sources say he has shown improvement but still has some issues to clean up for the NFL. He needs some work in the run game as he is a position-and-wall-off guy rather than a people mover. Leatherwood has problems when it's time to get physical. However, he has shown well in pass protection as a senior and the NFL is a passing-driven league.
Leatherwood has good feet, athleticism, excellent size, and length. Evaluators think he is good to cover up speed rushers as Leatherwood is so long and athletic it is difficult to get around him. Thus, they think given his excellent skill set at a premium position he will be a first-round pick and could go in the top-20.
Leatherwood played well for Alabama in 2019, showing he has a first-round skill set of size, quickness and athleticism. Taking on LSU, Leatherwood showed that he still needs some development in his technique, with Tigers edge rusher K'Lavon Chaisson giving Leatherwood some problems. Leatherwood was wise return to school to improve before going pro, but he has a lot of upside and the skill set to be special. As an underclassman he played inside and at tackle, including time against Georgia in the college football playoff at the end of the 2017 season in replacement of an injured Jonah Williams.
Sam Cosmi, OT, Texas
Height: 6-6. Weight: 295.
Projected 40 Time: 5.1.
Projected Round (2021): 1-3.
View Ranking History
11/14/20: Last fall, team sources told me they liked Cosmi and thought he was a better prospect than Connor Williams was at Texas. They felt Cosmi was raw and needing development, but athletically, he was an interesting prospect. Cosmi needs to get stronger for the NFL. Team sources believed he needed to go back to school if he wanted to be a secure first-round pick in his draft class, and Cosmi wisely decided to go back to Austin for his senior year.
In speaking to to team sources who saw Cosmi to open the 2020 season, they said that Cosmi looks like has added some good weight and he looks better physically. Cosmi has blocked well for Texas and could stand to continue to get even stronger for the next level.
As a redshirt freshman, Cosmi earned a starting spot at right tackle for the Longhorns and had an impressive debut. He did a good job in pass protection, showing some length and athleticism on the edge. For the NFL, it would help Cosmi to get stronger, but as a young player, he probably will add weight and strength as he ages and gains more experience. Cosmi was placed on NFL teams' preseason watch list in 2019, with some evaluators believing he had the potential to go in the top half of the 2020 NFL Draft.
Jalen Mayfield*, OT, Michigan
Height: 6-5. Weight: 319.
Projected 40 Time: 5.1.
Projected Round (2021): 1-3.
View Ranking History
11/14/20: Mayfield has played well to open 2020.
Michigan's Jalen Mayfield was perhaps the only offensive lineman who was truly impressive versus Chase Young in 2019. In plenty of one-on-one matchups, Mayfield got the better of Young, and there were other plays where Young had Mayfield on the ropes but the young Wolverine was able to recover in time to keep Young from making his typical game-changing plays. It was a breakout performance for the Wolverines right tackle to conclude the regular season.
What really jumps out about Mayfield is his quickness and athleticism on the edge to neutralize speed rushers. Mayfield is very quick out of his stance as he fires back or forward with explosion off the ball. With speed and agility, Mayfield instantly gets good depth in his drop and is able to play the typewriter with his feet to mirror speed rushers.
In the ground game, Mayfield is a solid contributor at the point of attack. He is not an overpowering road grader like Brandon Scherff was coming out of Iowa, and Mayfield is not as good of a run blocker as Andrew Thomas was at Georgia or Jedrick Wills was at Alabama, but Mayfield is dependable to execute his assignment. He has the strength to control, turn, and manipulate defenders at the point of attack. Mayfield is quick to the second level and able to kick out to the perimeter.
There are aspects of Mayfield's game that need improvement, and he should improve his technique for taking on NFL defensive linemen. At times, Mayfield lunges after defenders, which can get his weight too far over his toes. That leads to him missing some blocks in space especially. There are also times where he gives up up ground in bull rushes. He gets too wide with his hands, and that allows defenders to get into his chest to rock him back.
Liam Eichenberg, OT, Notre Dame
Height: 6-6. Weight: 305.
Projected 40 Time: 5.25.
Projected Round (2021): 1-3.
View Ranking History
11/14/20: Eichenberg has played well for Notre Dame thus far in 2020. Multiple evaluators said they graded Eichenberg as a late second- or early third-round pick. They feel the 6-foot-6, 305-pounder is a solid football player, but they do not feel he has the skill set of a first-round pick or a top-20 player. Eichenberg is not viewed as the same caliber of athlete as the five 2020 offensive tackles qho went in the top 20 of the first round: Andrew Thomas, Jedrick Wills, Mekhi Becton, Tristan Wirfs and Austin Jackson. But every year some teams take second-day graded players late in the first round, and Eichenberg could be a candidate for that as he looks like a safe pick to be a solid pro.
Eichenberg was solid, but not overly impressive, for Notre Dame in 2019. He was wise to return for his senior year. Eichenberg was dominated by Michigan edge rusher Chase Winovich in the 2018 season opener, but after that, Eichenberg was much better for the Fighting Irish. Eichenberg possesses some physical talent, but he needs to improve his ability to handle speed rushers at the next level. He was wise to go back to improve at Notre Dame before heading to the NFL.
Eichenberg won the left tackle job for 2018 as the replacement for Mike McGlinchey. Initially during the spring of 2018, Eichenberg was going to be competing at right tackle for Notre Dame, but he outperformed teammate Robert Hainsey, among others, to take the left tackle spot. Eichenberg has a lot of ability, and it will be interesting to see how he develops as he gains experience.
In that same Charlie draft Cosie goes right after the Bears, who he has drafting a WR(not likely). they know they need to fix that OL, you would think mock draft guys would know they need a qb/OT before a WR, even if they do let ARob go. Although it's completely possible they could get a top 5 OT drafting them in the 2nd also, or they could get a guy like this if they did go QB First:
Walker Little, OT, Stanford
Height: 6-7. Weight: 304.
Projected 40 Time: 5.4.
Projected Round (2021): 2-4.
View Ranking History
11/14/20: Little decided to sit out the 2020 season, which was a questionable decision as he will basically enter the NFL having missed two straight seasons of football. That hurts and slows down his development significantly.
Little was injured in the fourth quarter of the season opener in 2019, which ended his year. Little was impressive as a freshman starter at left tackle for Stanford in 2017. He did an effective job in run blocking and helped running back Bryce Love to a huge season. Little was solid as a sophomore and showed an improved ability to protect the passer, doing a respectable job in keeping pressure off of quarterback K.J. Costello.
In pass protection, Little is tough to beat for edge rushers. He has good length and strength, and is able to bend at the knee. Little sets up well to take on rushers, and once he gets a hold of defenders, they are in trouble. His length and strength allow him to sustain blocks to the whistle, and he is very difficult for rushers to shed. His long arms and strong upper body also give him an edge in recover-ability, so even when he is slightly out of position, he can compensate by getting enough of the rushers to give his quarterback time to throw.
Generally, Little is very dependable to not allow pressure. He has good hand placement and is intelligent to recognize how defenses are attacking the edge. Little also flashes some nastiness as a pass blocker, and it is not uncommon to see him grab a rusher in the chest and throw them to the ground with ferocity. Little sets a physical presence and is a real battler who makes it a long day for edge rushers to match up against.
Little is a plus run blocker for a left tackle. He is a fighter who has some nastiness to him. He definitely is not a finesse left tackle who shies away from getting violent with defenders. Little can get into the chest of defensive linemen and get a push on them at times. At other times, he uses his length to turn and manipulate defenders to keep them out of the play. In the ground game, Little could stand to improve his ability to stay on his feet. Too often, he stumbles and falls to a knee at the second level or trying to push a defender.
The Bears are set up nicely for this draft if they decide to go qb/ot or ot/qb. If the Bears fix the OL then Foles can be the starter for at least part of the season until the rookie qb is ready, or as his backup if the rookie is day 1 ready. Find an OT and a RT in FA and the OL is ready to compete if Bars/Mustafar are competing for the RG starting spot(which they've earned the right to). Rookie, Daniels, Whitehair, Bars/Mustafar, vet FA(RT draftee next year) and you have the makings of a good young OL for years to come.
The rest of the draft can be dedicated to the def, and early next years draft can be def minded also, outside of looking for WR help. You can get legit solid play for a 3-4 ILB in the 3rd-4th rounds, and next year you can be looking for an edge rusher in rd's 1-2, as well as DT/NT help, they have Nichols/RRH and Goldman those are all still legit quality on the DL. OLB-NT(Quinn/Hicks) replacements and maybe the year after that another olb for Macks replacement.
Team is still in very good shape if they are smart and draft well. What you cannot see is big splashy FA moves the next yr. 2021 before cuts, 2.5mil in cap space, 2022 is back up to 86mil, 2023 200+ mil in cap. Hit on LT and QB and RT, get a few contributors on def in the draft in the next 2 years as well as a WR or 2 and a RT and the team is already up and running in 2022 w/the ability to fix wholes they missed via FA.
I know this is qb only thread, sorry went a bit crazy looking around.