Post by brasilbear on Sept 23, 2020 12:17:45 GMT -6
I still have yet to see a good article that compares gm to gm. I like the concept of using 2nd contracts, not just for first rounders but across the board.
Windycity tried with an article comparing each draft pick to others remaining at the position to determine if the best player at that position was taken. They sadly only did it for Pace and ended up saying he was bad but didn't have anything to compare him with.
I still have yet to see a good article that compares gm to gm. I like the concept of using 2nd contracts, not just for first rounders but across the board.
Windycity tried with an article comparing each draft pick to others remaining at the position to determine if the best player at that position was taken. They sadly only did it for Pace and ended up saying he was bad but didn't have anything to compare him with.
Someone with time on their hands....
I have all day and don't have that kind of time on my hands.....think a lot of people would be disappointed w/the results anyways. Also not sure that even proves anything.
The GM that drafted Khalil Mack wasn't wrong, but he's knocked for not giving him a 2nd contract; that the team itself couldn't affoard; mostly b/c of lack of cash on hand b/c of the move.
What about players that decide they don't want to stay where they were drafted, ie Jeffery? does the GM get dinged b/c they offered enough to keep them but they choose to go elsewhere? It was still a good pick.
Billicheck is known for letting guys walk and just replacing them rather then paying them, he only keeps a few select players, this theory would say he's a bad GM.
Lot of holes in the idea, it's more of an ivory tower theory that doesn't hold weight in the real world application b/c of the salary cap, constantly moving gm's/hc's players etc.
I still have yet to see a good article that compares gm to gm. I like the concept of using 2nd contracts, not just for first rounders but across the board.
Windycity tried with an article comparing each draft pick to others remaining at the position to determine if the best player at that position was taken. They sadly only did it for Pace and ended up saying he was bad but didn't have anything to compare him with.
Someone with time on their hands....
I have all day and don't have that kind of time on my hands.....think a lot of people would be disappointed w/the results anyways. Also not sure that even proves anything.
The GM that drafted Khalil Mack wasn't wrong, but he's knocked for not giving him a 2nd contract; that the team itself couldn't affoard; mostly b/c of lack of cash on hand b/c of the move.
What about players that decide they don't want to stay where they were drafted, ie Jeffery? does the GM get dinged b/c they offered enough to keep them but they choose to go elsewhere? It was still a good pick.
Billicheck is known for letting guys walk and just replacing them rather then paying them, he only keeps a few select players, this theory would say he's a bad GM.
Lot of holes in the idea, it's more of an ivory tower theory that doesn't hold weight in the real world application b/c of the salary cap, constantly moving gm's/hc's players etc.
I think the second contract thing would be back of the envelope stuff only. Would give you a general value. I believe the draft is mostly luck anyway.
When you are talking 6th round on-line men and comparing one taken with the 18th pick in the 6th to those taken later...seemed pointless to me. I tried to look at John Lynch and his picks but after trying to figure out what late round cb was better I quit.
I still have yet to see a good article that compares gm to gm. I like the concept of using 2nd contracts, not just for first rounders but across the board.
Windycity tried with an article comparing each draft pick to others remaining at the position to determine if the best player at that position was taken. They sadly only did it for Pace and ended up saying he was bad but didn't have anything to compare him with.
Someone with time on their hands....
I have all day and don't have that kind of time on my hands.....think a lot of people would be disappointed w/the results anyways. Also not sure that even proves anything.
The GM that drafted Khalil Mack wasn't wrong, but he's knocked for not giving him a 2nd contract; that the team itself couldn't affoard; mostly b/c of lack of cash on hand b/c of the move.
What about players that decide they don't want to stay where they were drafted, ie Jeffery? does the GM get dinged b/c they offered enough to keep them but they choose to go elsewhere? It was still a good pick.
Billicheck is known for letting guys walk and just replacing them rather then paying them, he only keeps a few select players, this theory would say he's a bad GM.
Lot of holes in the idea, it's more of an ivory tower theory that doesn't hold weight in the real world application b/c of the salary cap, constantly moving gm's/hc's players etc.
+1
The GM gig is not an exact science but more of an art form anyway. The only metric that counts is winning. It's like a "grown up" version of Monopoly where all the GM's have a set amount of cap money to spend and they need to be strategic with how they invest the money. Each year (season) there is 1 winner. The other 31 GMs are losers of the "game" in a sense. There are various strategies and plans along with some blind luck like rolling the dice in a board game. LOL, the difference of course is that THIS isn't Monopoly money but real money. What works for one GM may not work for the next guy. But obviously there is plenty of skill involved with a GM who can have repeated success winning at a high percentage spanning many years.
Pace has been strategically investing in the player and coaching resources to build a championship team. It has been a 6 year project so far. It sure would be great to see some of his plan bear fruit this year. Or at least show real progress towards showcasing a championship team.
There may be lots of GM strategies but the true test is if they win or not. In the end I figure we have to let Pace do his thing and just watch to see if he wins. I hope so because starting over with yet another GM and HC is not something I look forward to. Better to have Pace and Nagy show they can win the big one.
Johnson has been terrific since Week 1. He’s played more press coverage snaps than any other cornerback in the NFL (89), allowing only 68 yards for three first downs on such looks. Johnson hasn’t allowed more than 55 yards in any single game this season and ranks second in the NFL with six pass breakups.
I know it's always said that it takes a few years to properly evaluate a draft, but at this very early stage it is looking like the 2020 Pace draft could be his best in 6 years here. LOL, and another reason why he should not give away his draft picks too easily. It's okay to deal picks but just value them as if they were the life-blood of your franchise. Because they are.