2 quote the article, this should be looked at as a 2 yr 14mil deal. 7mil aav.
Also, nick k will get overpaid which is probably why they gave a few more mil to danny t to keep him in the fold as he knows the system*this is an understatement as he was the def playcaller*
Afraid not true. Bumping this thread cuz I came across this:
If this ^^^ is accurate, its a TERRIBLE contract by Pace. Take a look for yourselves.
$9m IN DEAD CAP IN YEAR 3 (2022)!!! RUFKM???
All those of you who wanted to keep Danny T over Nick K better pray real hard he stays healthy and doesn't fall off a cliff for 3 FULL YEARS. This is not a contract you give a 30yo player with an injury history. There's no "easy out" here at all.
2 quote the article, this should be looked at as a 2 yr 14mil deal. 7mil aav.
Also, nick k will get overpaid which is probably why they gave a few more mil to danny t to keep him in the fold as he knows the system*this is an understatement as he was the def playcaller*
Afraid not true. Bumping this thread cuz I came across this:
If this ^^^ is accurate, its a TERRIBLE contract by Pace. Take a look for yourselves.
$9m IN DEAD CAP IN YEAR 3 (2022)!!! RUFKM???
All those of you who wanted to keep Danny T over Nick K better pray real hard he stays healthy and doesn't fall off a cliff for 3 FULL YEARS. This is not a contract you give a 30yo player with an injury history. There's no "easy out" here at all.
OTC shows different. Refers to it as a 3 yr 21mil deal. With all guarantees in the first 2 years. 7mil in dead cap year 3 still really high but it mentions there are 3 dummy years to help smooth out the cap. This is far from a standard contract so I'm not going to pretend to understand its workings, and apparently otc and spotrac arent sure either as they view it much differntly.
Regardless nick k isnt the lvl of player dt is, so I'd rather him and a rookie this or next year then nick k and and the same rookie. This doesnt change my view that ilb is a draft need sooner then later.
We'll just have to see how the 2 play also. If nick can hold up as a starter for 16 games and play at the lvl he did last year or higher.
Post by lklrlolnlilklsox on Mar 20, 2020 23:33:00 GMT -6
We got low cap hits by giving him what amounts to a guaranteed contract. I’m okay with that. If healthy, he’s a great deal cap-wise. We’ll see, but I see no problem with making moves to retain the players you feel strongly about.
Danny is a pretty damn good LB and he only makes $4.3M this year according to them. Cap will grow and shift and even at $6 in a couple years, it’s not a move that kills the bottom line.
If this ^^^ is accurate, its a TERRIBLE contract by Pace. Take a look for yourselves.
$9m IN DEAD CAP IN YEAR 3 (2022)!!! RUFKM???
All those of you who wanted to keep Danny T over Nick K better pray real hard he stays healthy and doesn't fall off a cliff for 3 FULL YEARS. This is not a contract you give a 30yo player with an injury history. There's no "easy out" here at all.
OTC shows different. Refers to it as a 3 yr 21mil deal. With all guarantees in the first 2 years. 7mil in dead cap year 3 still really high but it mentions there are 3 dummy years to help smooth out the cap. This is far from a standard contract so I'm not going to pretend to understand its workings, and apparently otc and spotrac arent sure either as they view it much differntly.
Regardless nick k isnt the lvl of player dt is, so I'd rather him and a rookie this or next year then nick k and and the same rookie. This doesnt change my view that ilb is a draft need sooner then later.
We'll just have to see how the 2 play also. If nick can hold up as a starter for 16 games and play at the lvl he did last year or higher.
OTC shows $7.5m in dead cap in 2022. Those 3 "dummy years" backload the cap in effect.
Whether the 2020 dead cap number is $9m or $7.5m, that's a big ass number for a not-uncommonly-injured LB staring at his 33rd birthday. We aren't talking about a QB or a punter here.
Rationalize it however you want, there's a price to pay down the road for keeping his 2020 cap number low. You get away with that usually on younger player but if Danny T breaks down and keeps getting hurt before the 3 years are up, there is no getting around it. Its gonna be the same situation as we have right now with Burton--an injured player you can't cut and are stuck paying.
Would be interesting to compile dead money numbers for the next 3-5 years. Pace may be stacking them or simply playing the odds that as the cap goes up, 7-9mil isn't so big of a %.
Not trying to defend the contract, simply trying to find something to do while I watch birds in my front lawn.
OTC shows different. Refers to it as a 3 yr 21mil deal. With all guarantees in the first 2 years. 7mil in dead cap year 3 still really high but it mentions there are 3 dummy years to help smooth out the cap. This is far from a standard contract so I'm not going to pretend to understand its workings, and apparently otc and spotrac arent sure either as they view it much differntly.
Regardless nick k isnt the lvl of player dt is, so I'd rather him and a rookie this or next year then nick k and and the same rookie. This doesnt change my view that ilb is a draft need sooner then later.
We'll just have to see how the 2 play also. If nick can hold up as a starter for 16 games and play at the lvl he did last year or higher.
OTC shows $7.5m in dead cap in 2022. Those 3 "dummy years" backload the cap in effect.
Whether the 2020 dead cap number is $9m or $7.5m, that's a big ass number for a not-uncommonly-injured LB staring at his 33rd birthday. We aren't talking about a QB or a punter here.
Rationalize it however you want, there's a price to pay down the road for keeping his 2020 cap number low. You get away with that usually on younger player but if Danny T breaks down and keeps getting hurt before the 3 years are up, there is no getting around it. Its gonna be the same situation as we have right now with Burton--an injured player you can't cut and are stuck paying.
I said the 7mil was high. I said yesterday all I try and do a more is try and find reason for the move, whether I like it or not and my liking or disliking is irrelevant. I didnt like the tru pick, move up or otherwise, but I did like pace getting the guy he wanted. And with it being tru, and that kid having a laughably low amount of college experience I said he needed to sit a year and it was going to take time for him to develop, not the normal 3 yrs. Doesnt matter that he wasn't my fav, I'm not going to rail against it and bitch and moan and hate on my team bc of it. I didnt think any of these 3 were sure bets and would have traded out and tried to get anyone of the three; but I also understand why a gm/team wouldn't want to do that.
When everyone seemed to freak we "gave away" our franchise rb last year, I tried to rationalize it. And it appears to have been the correct case as philly dropped him for absolutely nothing. He isnt a franchise rb, he is a guy that racked up numbers early but had worse ypc every year.
With this signing, I was with you, I would have taken Nick, but I also know I know Jack squat about what the team wants/needs on the other side of smith and what their future plans are. I'm guessing, and with the short low contract Nick got I think I'm right, that Nick isnt seen as a high lvl starter, so the team re signed danny who is, and apparently he is a locker room leader who the other players admire, and will likely draft his replacement in hope's of a higher end player to put next to smith down the road on a cheap rookie deal.