It all starts up front. As the Oline goes, so does Mitch and the Oline sucks ass.
Oh HELL NO, It's Mitch making the O Line look bad, didn't you get the memo?
Seriously though, I still maintain Mitch isn't as bad as he looks. It's just so hard to tell with the bad O Line play, the dropped balls, the bad playcalling and the bad game scheming. I mean, Mitch could be worse than Quinn, he could be Grossman/Orton, he could be Cutler, he could be McNown, he could even be McMahon. In any case he needs help now. Inside his own head as well as from Nagy and his teammates.
Unfortunately, at this point, I don't hold out much hope he can beat Grossman/Orton. Please, Mitch, PLEASE prove me wrong.
I really didn't get to see much of the game so I don't have any strong takes. But what I did see was Mitch miss a couple bad over throws and I saw at least 2 if not 3 drops, and Robinson catch a wonderfull ball and not get both feet down.
Mitch is definitely part of the problem, but he isn't THE problem. Just like the def is part of the problem, but not THE problem.
You know Olin isn't going to be one to be overly harsh on the OL, normally defeds it, for him to say this is pretty eye opening though.
It all starts up front. As the Oline goes, so does Mitch and the Oline sucks ass.
Oh HELL NO, It's Mitch making the O Line look bad, didn't you get the memo?
Seriously though, I still maintain Mitch isn't as bad as he looks. It's just so hard to tell with the bad O Line play, the dropped balls, the bad playcalling and the bad game scheming. I mean, Mitch could be worse than Quinn, he could be Grossman/Orton, he could be Cutler, he could be McNown, he could even be McMahon. In any case he needs help now. Inside his own head as well as from Nagy and his teammates.
Unfortunately, at this point, I don't hold out much hope he can beat Grossman/Orton. Please, Mitch, PLEASE prove me wrong.
It is hard, if not impossible, for us to accurately sort out and give proper weight/priority to the various contributing factors to the mess this team is this season. It may (or may not) be the case that the OL sucks, but yes, the GM, HC, the QB, the TEs, etc etc etc - all suck to varying degrees. Who sucks the worst? What must be done to fix the mess? I don't think any of us accurately KNOWS. About the only thing we can agree on, is the fact that the 2019 Chicago Bears team has a lot of suck going on. It is hard to watch football that is played this poorly on gamedays.
I really didn't get to see much of the game so I don't have any strong takes. But what I did see was Mitch miss a couple bad over throws and I saw at least 2 if not 3 drops, and Robinson catch a wonderfull ball and not get both feet down.
Mitch is definitely part of the problem, but he isn't THE problem. Just like the def is part of the problem, but not THE problem.
You know Olin isn't going to be one to be overly harsh on the OL, normally defeds it, for him to say this is pretty eye opening though.
+1
That's my take on it too, Ric. It is too simple to just point at one failed piece (Trubisky) as the end-all cause of this mess. There is no way you can have a team that is THIS screwed up - and blame it all on the QB. This is painful football to watch on gamedays. LOL, and this is from a guy who has watched many years of bad Chicago Bears teams. It's like the team isn't ready to play on gameday. They look so poorly prepared and the coaches and players can't for the life of them execute well.
But I will say this. While I have watched many bad seasons of Bears football over the past 55+ years, I can't remember a Bears team that embarrassed me MORE than this one. I've seen seasons that were equally bad, I guess, but none more embarrassing to watch. I feel about as bad (and honestly maybe more badly) than how I felt watching Trestman's 2nd year team perform. Sure, the defense is better now than then, even when it does under-perform this year. But the inept offense more than makes up for the level of suck here. And John Fox's teams did not make me feel any worse than I feel now after watching a total clown show on gamedays. Holy cow. This is butt-ugly football. As you would say Ric, turrible football to watch. Turrible.
I really didn't get to see much of the game so I don't have any strong takes. But what I did see was Mitch miss a couple bad over throws and I saw at least 2 if not 3 drops, and Robinson catch a wonderfull ball and not get both feet down.
Mitch is definitely part of the problem, but he isn't THE problem. Just like the def is part of the problem, but not THE problem.
You know Olin isn't going to be one to be overly harsh on the OL, normally defeds it, for him to say this is pretty eye opening though.
+1
That's my take on it too, Ric. It is too simple to just point at one failed piece (Trubisky) as the end-all cause of this mess. There is no way you can have a team that is THIS screwed up - and blame it all on the QB. This is painful football to watch on gamedays. LOL, and this is from a guy who has watched many years of bad Chicago Bears teams. It's like the team isn't ready to play on gameday. They look so poorly prepared and the coaches and players can't for the life of them execute well.
But I will say this. While I have watched many bad seasons of Bears football over the past 55+ years, I can't remember a Bears team that embarrassed me MORE than this one. I've seen seasons that were equally bad, I guess, but none more embarrassing to watch. I feel about as bad (and honestly maybe more badly) than how I felt watching Trestman's 2nd year team perform. Sure, the defense is better now than then, even when it does under-perform this year. But the inept offense more than makes up for the level of suck here. And John Fox's teams did not make me feel any worse than I feel now after watching a total clown show on gamedays. Holy cow. This is butt-ugly football. As you would say Ric, turrible football to watch. Turrible.
It’s pretty classic in human psychology to excuse in some way something you’re having trouble accepting by pointing out fault elsewhere.
We all know the OL hasn’t performed like we thought it would (and should). We all know Monty shouldn’t drop that screen pass and Robinson probably should have caught that deep ball even though it was under-thrown. We all know the TEs have sucked (though that shouldn’t have been a surprise since they sucked late last year too). We all know the defense isn’t playing at a league-dominating level and isn’t getting TOs like it did much of last season.
But....holy crap, can’t believe I have to say this...the QB is far and away the biggest problem on the field. The QB has impact, positive or negative, on the overall teams performance way, way, way more than any other single player. When your QB is royally crapping the bad, that poo rolls downhill onto everyone else. It’s very very hard for any other offensive player to “look good” when the QB is terrible. I’d argue it’s pretty hard for the defense as a whole to look good when the offense can’t score points and can’t even get 1st downs drive after drive after drive, game after game after game.
With just league-average QB play, I’d argue we are no worse than 5-3 today, quite possibly 6-2. The ONLY game this year Chicago fell well behind in early was the Oakland game and even there the D and STs got us right back in it by half. Every other game, the Bears have been IN at least until the late 3rd quarter.
The offense has to score! Which means the QB has be better than 10 of 25, 125 yards, 0 TDs, 4 sacks!
QB by far is the most pressing need and problem right now.
Trubisky hasn’t thrown a TD pass outside of garbage time since the 3rd quarter of week 3!!!!!
