What do you think they said when Ditka and Smith arrived? Same as all the above? Where the outcomes a little different then the past 2 and Nagy?
OK, I'll give you Lovie if you like but actually Lovie was JA's guy, not a McCaskey hire. By then Mikey had been removed as CEO after he messed up the coaching hire of Dave McGinnis that led to the hiring of Jauron.
And.....the McCaskey clan didn't own the Bears when Ditka arrived did they? GSH hired Ditka himself.
This was more about the Head Coaches hired on a McCaskey watch. I believe that was Dave's point.
If it was about the Mc's, then to be fair, Emery/Trestman and neither were Pace/Fox b/c they hired a firm for one and Earnie A for the other. Pace is their first true hire. IMO this was in general about fans getting excited for a new HC and having reasons to have reservations, but in reality each HC should be taken on a case by case basis. I think Smith is the best example to go off of b/c Nagy and Smith were coordinators w/their first shot at HC, and both have a young ascending team. The roster the Bears had before Smith took over was very young high talent team and a young qb; same could be said for Nagy, things that could not be said about Trestman or Fox, both had aging teams and a older qb that had reached his ceiling.
I think I'm being more than fair about what's taken place under McCaskey ownership and I believe I disagree with you so Hell must be thawing now. Factually Mikey hired an Exec Search firm to find them JA. Emery was their former scout and I believe a guy Teddy Bears favored and GMcC went along with so he was most definitely Phillips/GMcC hire. I'll call JA a partial success because he did help build a Super Bowl team but couldn't sustain that success because he drafted poorly.
But regardless, HCs; Wanny, Jauron, Trestman, Fox, and Nagy were all hired under McCaskeys. So as was Lovie but one success out of how many failures ain't much to brag on and even then they allowed the second most successful HC since Halas to be fired. GMs and a pseudo GM (Rod Graves), JA, Emery and Pace were also hired under McCaskey ownership. And again one success, if it becomes one, in roughly 25 years isn't great either. As far as Pace goes we don't have a full answer. Only that things are looking up now.
Hey, I'm beyond pleased with most everything now. You both know that I'm usually overly-optimistic about the team. Although, I was pretty devastated the last half of last season. I'd given up hope, and wasn't certain the Bears would even fire Fox at the end of the season (thought they might let him play out his last contract year... I just didn't know).
I am cautiously optimistic now.
I've experienced 12 Bears head coaches now (I'm old enough to have followed the Bears since Halas was the head coach and winning championships before there even was a Super Bowl in existence). I'm at the point now where I'm hoping for the best, but understand that Nagy and Pace may or may not do well here. That's not being positive or negative. Just trying to be a realist based upon our history in the modern era of the NFL. Same with Trubisky. I do believe we have a good QB, but it remains to be seen what happens with him (should be good). But I felt every bit as good with past QBs in the beginning when hope springs eternal. Guys like Cade McNown, Rex and even Jay at first were really expected to be great Bears QBs, but didn't fulfill our early expectations. So, while I'm excited about T, I do understand there is a difference between hope and what eventually happens on the Bears teams. Like I said, I am definitely optimistic. But now I'm more cautiously optimistic.