Been hearing on the radio this morning that Rosen comes off as a rich kid, entitled and "cutler esque" in his attitude, said he's a wise-guy and has all the answers. Add in that he barely is over 60% completion and he has a boom or bust potential, which if taken high will cost a gm his job if he busts.
Ouch.
All I can say is I'm so glad we got our guy last year and now we can focus on other positions. This year's QB class is pretty awful imo. Your top 3 consists of Rosen who's arrogant, Sam overrated Darnold w/ accuracy issues and Mayfield who's totally immature. If I had to draft one this year I'd go w/ the kid from Wyoming.
Been hearing on the radio this morning that Rosen comes off as a rich kid, entitled and "cutler esque" in his attitude, said he's a wise-guy and has all the answers. Add in that he barely is over 60% completion and he has a boom or bust potential, which if taken high will cost a gm his job if he busts.
Ouch.
All I can say is I'm so glad we got our guy last year and now we can focus on other positions. This year's QB class is pretty awful imo. Your top 3 consists of Rosen who's arrogant, Sam overrated Darnold w/ accuracy issues and Mayfield who's totally immature. If I had to draft one this year I'd go w/ the kid from Wyoming.
Anyway, good thing we got Mitch.
But I thought this years class was better than last years class hands down. Were we....mislead?
All I can say is I'm so glad we got our guy last year and now we can focus on other positions. This year's QB class is pretty awful imo. Your top 3 consists of Rosen who's arrogant, Sam overrated Darnold w/ accuracy issues and Mayfield who's totally immature. If I had to draft one this year I'd go w/ the kid from Wyoming.
Anyway, good thing we got Mitch.
But I thought this years class was better than last years class hands down. Were we....mislead?
I was pounding the table last spring for Trubisky and so glad it happened. We gave up a fair amount and had to suffer through another crap year but the holes are now fillable and we aren’t floundering about for a QB anymore.
I'll post this here as a reference from one source. Here's his Top 50 overall and Top 10 at each position.
Top 50 Overall Players
1. RB Saquon Barkley, Penn State 2. OG Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame 3. EDGE Bradley Chubb, NC State 4. S Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama 5. QB Sam Darnold, USC 6. QB Josh Allen, Wyoming 7. QB Josh Rosen, UCLA 8. CB Denzel Ward, Ohio State 9. S Derwin James, Florida State 10. LB Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech 11. LB Roquan Smith, Georgia 12. QB Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma 13. OT Connor Williams, Texas 14. CB Josh Jackson, Iowa 15. WR Calvin Ridley, Alabama 16. EDGE Marcus Davenport, UTSA 17. EDGE Harold Landry, Boston College 18. LB Rashaan Evans, Alabama 19. LB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State 20. C Billy Price, Ohio State 21. OT Mike McGlinchey, Notre Dame 22. C James Daniels, Iowa 23. OG Isaiah Wynn, Georgia 24. DL Vita Vea, Washington 25. DL Da'Ron Payne, Alabama 26. EDGE Sam Hubbard, Ohio State 27. CB Jaire Alexander, Louisville 28. RB Derrius Guice, LSU 29. RB Sony Michel, Georgia 30. DL Maurice Hurst, Michigan 31. CB Isaiah Oliver, Colorado 32. WR Courtland Sutton, SMU 33. CB Mike Hughes, Central Florida 34. TE Dallas Goedert, South Dakota State 35. RB Ronald Jones, USC 36. LB Malik Jefferson, Texas 37. S Ronnie Harrison, Alabama 38. OT Kolton Miller, UCLA 39. WR Christian Kirk, Texas A&M 40. WR D.J. Moore, Maryland 41. S Justin Reid, Stanford 42. OG Will Hernandez, UTEP 43. EDGE Arden Key, LSU 44. DL Harrison Phillips, Stanford 45. DL Derrick Nnadi, Florida State 46. OT Jamarco Jones, Ohio State 47. CB Carlton Davis, Auburn 48. CB Donte Jackson, LSU 49. WR James Washington, Oklahoma State 50. DL Taven Bryan, Florida
Top 10 Quarterbacks
Biggest Riser: Luke Falk, Washington State
Biggest Faller: Tanner Lee, Nebraska
Most NFL-Ready: Josh Rosen, UCLA
Best Arm: Josh Allen, Wyoming
Best Runner: Lamar Jackson, Louisville
Best Potential: Allen
Biggest Question Mark: Allen
Biggest Sleeper: Mike White, Western Kentucky
1. Sam Darnold, USC 2. Josh Allen, Wyoming 3. Josh Rosen, UCLA 4. Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma 5. Lamar Jackson, Louisville 6. Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State 7. Luke Falk, Washington State 8. Kyle Lauletta, Richmond 9. Mike White, Western Kentucky 10. Kurt Benkert, Virginia
Top 10 Running Backs
Biggest Riser: Nyheim Hines, NC State
Biggest Faller: None
Most NFL-Ready: Saquon Barkley, Penn State
Best Third-Down Back: Barkley
Best Speed: Ronald Jones, USC
Best Power: Derrius Guice, LSU
Best Potential: Barkley
Biggest Question Mark: Nick Chubb, Georgia (injury history)
Biggest Sleeper: Mark Walton, Miami
1. Saquon Barkley, Penn State 2. Derrius Guice, LSU 3. Sony Michel, Georgia 4. Ronald Jones, USC 5. Kerryon Johnson, Auburn 6. Mark Walton, Miami 7. Rashaad Penny, San Diego State 8. Nick Chubb, Georgia 9. Nyheim Hines, NC State 10. Akrum Wadley, Iowa
Top 5 Fullbacks
Most NFL-Ready: Dimitri Flowers, Oklahoma
Best Pass-Blocker: Nick Bawden, SDSU
Best Receiver: Flowers
Best Power: Khalid Hill, Michigan
1. Dimitri Flowers, Oklahoma 2. Nick Bawden, San Diego State 3. Donnie Ernsberger, Western Michigan 4. Daythan Davis, Southern Miss 5. Garrett Dickerson, Northwestern
Top 10 Wide Receivers
Biggest Riser: D.J. Moore, Maryland
Biggest Faller: Jordan Lasley, UCLA
Most NFL-Ready: Calvin Ridley, Alabama
Best Boundary Receiver: Courtland Sutton, SMU
Best Slot Receiver: Christian Kirk, Texas A&M
Best Hands: Ridley
Best Route-Runner: Ridley
Best Potential: Sutton
Biggest Question Mark: Cain
Biggest Sleeper: D.J. Chark, LSU
1. Calvin Ridley, Alabama 2. Courtland Sutton, SMU 3. Christian Kirk, Texas A&M 4. D.J. Moore, Maryland 5. James Washington, Oklahoma State 6. Deon Cain, Clemson 7. Dante Pettis, Washington 8. Simmie Cobbs, Indiana 9. D.J. Chark, LSU 10. Michael Gallup, Colorado State
Top 10 Tight Ends
Biggest Riser: Mike Gesicki, Penn State
Biggest Faller: Troy Fumagalli, Wisconsin
Most NFL-Ready: Hayden Hurst, South Carolina
Best Slot Tight End: Dallas Goedert, South Dakota State
Best Hands: Gesicki
Best Route-Runner: Gesicki
Best Blocker: Will Dissly, Washington
Best Power: Hurst
Biggest Question Mark: Troy Fumagalli, Wisconsin
Biggest Sleeper: Chris Herndon, Miami
1. Dallas Goedert, South Dakota State 2. Mike Gesicki, Penn State 3. Hayden Hurst, South Carolina 4. Mark Andrews, Oklahoma 5. Ryan Izzo, Florida State 6. Ian Thomas, Indiana 7. Chris Herndon, Miami 8. Jaylen Samuels, NC State 9. Will Dissly, Washington 10. Troy Fumagalli, Wisconsin
Top 10 Offensive Tackles
Biggest Riser: Kolton Miller, UCLA
Biggest Faller: Orlando Brown, Oklahoma
Most NFL-Ready: Connor Williams, Texas
Best Run-Blocker: Jamarco Jones, Ohio State
Best Pass-Blocker: Williams
Best Potential: Williams
Biggest Question Mark: Desmond Harrison, West Georgia
Biggest Sleeper: Brian O'Neill, Pitt
1. Connor Williams, Texas 2. Mike McGlinchey, Notre Dame 3. Kolton Miller, UCLA 4. Jamarco Jones, Ohio State 5. Brian O'Neill, Pittsburgh 6. Tyrell Crosby, Oregon 7. Desmond Harrison, West Georgia 8. Orlando Brown, Oklahoma 9. Chukwuma Okorafor, Western Michigan 10. Martinas Rankin, Mississippi State
Top 10 Guards
Biggest Riser: Austin Corbett, Nevada
Biggest Faller: Braden Smith, Auburn
Most NFL-Ready: Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame
Best Run-Blocker: Nelson
Best Pass-Blocker: Nelson
Best Potential: Nelson
Biggest Question Mark: Sam Jones, Arizona State
Biggest Sleeper: Skyler Phillips, Idaho State
1. Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame 2. Isaiah Wynn, Georgia 3. Will Hernandez, UTEP 4. Austin Corbett, Nevada 5. Braden Smith, Auburn 6. Wyatt Teller, Virginia Tech 7. Sam Jones, Arizona State 8. Taylor Hearn, Clemson 9. Skyler Phillips, Idaho State 10. Timon Parris, Stony Brook
Top 10 Centers
Biggest Riser: Will Clapp, LSU
Biggest Faller: Brian Allen, Michigan State
Most NFL-Ready: James Daniels, Iowa
Best Run-Blocker: Daniels
Best Pass-Blocker: Billy Price, Ohio State
Best Potential: Price
Biggest Question Mark: Price (injury)
Biggest Sleeper: Will Clapp, LSU
1. Billy Price, Ohio State 2. James Daniels, Iowa 3. Frank Ragnow, Arkansas 4. Will Clapp, LSU 5. Mason Cole, Michigan 6. Bradley Bozeman, Alabama 7. Scott Quessenberry, UCLA 8. Coleman Shelton, Washington 9. Brian Allen, Michigan State 10. Jake Bennett, Colorado State
Top 10 Defensive Linemen
Biggest Riser: B.J. Hill, North Carolina State
Biggest Faller: JoJo Wicker, Arizona State
Most NFL-Ready: Vita Vea, Washington
Best Run-Stopper: Vea
Best Pass-Rusher: Maurice Hurst, Michigan
Best Potential: Hurst
Biggest Question Mark: Hurst (heart issue)
Biggest Sleeper: Tim Settle, Virginia Tech
1. Vita Vea, Washington 2. Da'Ron Payne, Alabama 3. Maurice Hurst, Michigan 4. Harrison Phillips, Stanford 5. Derrick Nnadi, Florida State 6. Taven Bryan, Florida 7. B.J. Hill, NC State 8. Rasheem Green, USC 9. Da'Shawn Hand, Alabama 10. Tim Settle, Virginia Tech
Top 10 Edge-Rushers
Biggest Riser: Josh Sweat, Florida State
Biggest Faller: Hercules Mata'afa, Washington State
Most NFL-Ready: Bradley Chubb, NC State
Best Run-Stopper: Sam Hubbard, Ohio State
Best Pass-Rusher: Chubb
Best Potential: Chubb
Biggest Question Mark: Arden Key, LSU
Biggest Sleeper: Dorance Armstrong, Kansas
1. Bradley Chubb, NC State 2. Marcus Davenport, UTSA 3. Harold Landry, Boston College 4. Sam Hubbard, Ohio State 5. Arden Key, LSU 6. Dorance Armstrong, Kansas 7. Uchenna Nwosu, USC 8. Josh Sweat, Florida State 9. Chad Thomas, Miami 10. Jeff Holland, Auburn
Top 10 Linebackers
Biggest Riser: Lorenzo Carter, Georgia
Biggest Faller: Shaun Dion Hamilton, Alabama
Most NFL-Ready: Roquan Smith, Georgia
Best Run-Stopper: Rashaan Evans, Alabama
Best Pass Coverage: Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech
Best Pass-Rusher: Malik Jefferson, Texas
Best Potential: Edmunds
Biggest Question Mark: Shaquem Griffin, Central Florida
Biggest Sleeper: Josey Jewell, Iowa
1. Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech 2. Roquan Smith, Georgia 3. Rashaan Evans, Alabama 4. Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State 5. Malik Jefferson, Texas 6. Lorenzo Carter, Georgia 7. Jerome Baker, Ohio State 8. Josey Jewell, Iowa 9. Marquis Haynes, Ole Miss 10. Darius Leonard, South Carolina State
Top 10 Cornerbacks
Biggest Riser: Jaire Alexander, Louisville
Biggest Faller: Tarvarus McFadden, Florida State
Most NFL-Ready: Denzel Ward, Ohio State
Best Slot Cornerback: Jaire Alexander, Louisville
Best Man Coverage: Ward
Best Zone Coverage: Anthony Averett, Alabama
Best Potential: Mike Hughes, Central Florida
Biggest Question Mark: Holton Hill, Texas (suspended for violating team rules)
Biggest Sleeper: Anthony Averett, Alabama
1. Denzel Ward, Ohio State 2. Josh Jackson, Iowa 3. Jaire Alexander, Louisville 4. Isaiah Oliver, Colorado 5. Mike Hughes, Central Florida 6. Carlton Davis, Auburn 7. Donte Jackson, LSU 8. M.J. Stewart, North Carolina 9. Anthony Averett, Alabama 10. Nick Nelson, Wisconsin
Top 10 Safeties
Biggest Riser: Jessie Bates, Wake Forest
Biggest Faller: Jordan Whitehead, Pitt
Most NFL-Ready: Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama
Best Coverage: Fitzpatrick
Best Strong Safety: Derwin James, Florida State
Best Free Safety: Fitzpatrick
Best Hybrid Defender: James
Best Run-Stopper: Ronnie Harrison, Alabama
Best Potential: James
Biggest Question Mark: DeShon Elliott, Texas
Biggest Sleeper: Jessie Bates, Wake Forest
1. Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama 2. Derwin James, Florida State 3. Ronnie Harrison, Alabama 4. Justin Reid, Stanford 5. Jessie Bates, Wake Forest 6. Kyzir White, West Virginia 7. Marcus Allen, Penn State 8. Terrell Edmunds, Virginia Tech 9. Quin Blanding, Virginia 10. DeShon Elliott, Texas