Should Pace trade down from #87?

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Should Pace trade down from #87? Apr 13, 2019 4:34:00 GMT -6

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Should Chicago Bears trade down from 87?
By Bill Zimmerman - April 12th, 2019

Would it be smart for the Chicago Bears to trade down from 87?

With no first or second round pick, the Chicago Bears don’t get a chance to draft a prospect until the 87th overall pick of the draft. That pick is in the latter part of the third round and there has been plenty of speculation that Ryan Pace should trade up to get the running back he covets.

While Pace has shown that he won’t hesitate to move around in the draft and trade up for the player he wants, he’s also shown that he’s not shy about trading down either and recouping picks.

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Should Pace trade down from #87? Apr 13, 2019 8:46:25 GMT -6 tragicslip likes this

Post by brasilbear on Apr 13, 2019 8:46:25 GMT -6

Personally, no. I believe that better players are found higher in the draft consistently. For every A.Brown you show me, I'll point to 25 late round WRs that never played a snap.

But it all depends on where you fall between these two ideas.

(1) Better players are found higher, ergo draft one guy at 87 gives you better odds than drafting 2 or 3 guys later.

(2) More picks are better. It gives you more chances to find guys.

Like I wrote above, I fall closer to #1 than to #2, so I don't trade down.

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Should Pace trade down from #87? Apr 13, 2019 8:50:09 GMT -6

Post by AlexM on Apr 13, 2019 8:50:09 GMT -6

Apr 13, 2019 8:46:25 GMT -6 brasilbear said:

Personally, no. I believe that better players are found higher in the draft consistently. For every A.Brown you show me, I'll point to 25 late round WRs that never played a snap.

But it all depends on where you fall between these two ideas.

(1) Better players are found higher, ergo draft one guy at 87 gives you better odds than drafting 2 or 3 guys later.

(2) More picks are better. It gives you more chances to find guys.

Like I wrote above, I fall closer to #1 than to #2, so I don't trade down.

We need fewer quality guys atm, unlike a couple of years ago. So no, I wouldnt trade down. Would trade up though, if possible at all.

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tragicslip Starter Posts: 953 Likes: 901	Should Pace trade down from #87? Apr 13, 2019 9:41:01 GMT -6 JABF likes this Post by tragicslip on Apr 13, 2019 9:41:01 GMT -6 if the trade is for a similar or higher pick in next years draft and a 120-150 pick this year: maybe. honestly going to depend on the board. Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top

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Should Pace trade down from #87? Apr 13, 2019 10:09:37 GMT -6

Post by JABF on Apr 13, 2019 10:09:37 GMT -6

"Plus, keep this in mind, Pace’s third round picks include Hroniss Grasu and Jonathan Bullard. Pace’s fourth round picks include Tarik Cohen and Eddie Jackson. Pace has shined in rounds four and five, but not so much in round three.

Maybe it’s a coincidence about the third round struggles, but the fourth (and fifth) round success Pace has had is undeniable.

When you look at the draft point system which is what teams use to make sure they are getting good value. If the Bears find a partner (and looking at the board, the New York Giants and New England Patriots jump out), they could trade down to the end of third round or beginning of the fourth round and pick up an additional fourth round pick (in the back half of the round)."

It may depend upon how the draft board is playing out for Pace at that point.

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mpbears68 Hall of Famer Posts: 8,637 Likes: 10,943	Should Pace trade down from #87? Apr 13, 2019 11:37:54 GMT -6 JABF and shark86 like this Post by mpbears68 on Apr 13, 2019 11:37:54 GMT -6 If Pace traded the #87 pick down to the top of the 4th round, he'd have 3 4th and 1 5th round pick to play with. Yes please Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top

JABF Administrator Posts: 18,050 Likes: 19,272	Should Pace trade down from #87? Apr 13, 2019 14:31:11 GMT -6 Post by JABF on Apr 13, 2019 14:31:11 GMT -6 Apr 13, 2019 11:37:54 GMT -6 mpbears68 said: If Pace traded the #87 pick down to the top of the 4th round, he'd have 3 4th and 1 5th round pick to play with. Yes please The more I think about it, the more I agree with this ^^^^^ Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
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Should Pace trade down from #87? Apr 13, 2019 16:05:24 GMT -6 JABF, shark86, and 1 more like this

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Apr 13, 2019 14:31:11 GMT -6 JABF said:

Apr 13, 2019 11:37:54 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

If Pace traded the #87 pick down to the top of the 4th round, he'd have 3 4th and 1 5th round pick to play with.

Yes please

The more I think about it, the more I agree with this ^^^^^

The difference in talent or potential from the late-3rd to the upper-4th is generally minimal. I have no problem Pace sticking at 87 if there's a guy there he really really likes but if the board looks meh I'd sure rather have 3 4ths than 1 3rd and 1 4th.

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