I thought he made an interesting observation. He said two things are true:
(1) every team has multiple starters playing on rookie contracts. The key here is identifying what players are worth that second contract (and hence a pay raise equal to what other starters at his position make--ie a vet G on his second contract is making more than a G on his rookie contract) and what players/positions can be filled by another rookie contract.
(2) The salary cap is more flexible that we as fans think. There are ways to create space and the future can always be pushed back (until the TV money changes and the cap does down).
Its interesting to me to see how any players the Bears have on rookie contracts and then try and figure out who can be replaced by another rookie contract instead of upgrading to a vet min.
I'm at work so I may miss someone but I see these guys on rookie contracts:
OFF QB Mitch RB Howard RB Cohen TE Shaneen WR Miller G Daniels C Whitehair
DEF DL Nichols OLB Floyd ILB Smith FS Jackson SS Amos
An interesting discussion could be had around projecting who gtrs resigned and who gets replaced by either a draft pick or vet min.We can also add a list of guys making the vet min and seeing if they can be replaced by a rookie contract.
I thought he made an interesting observation. He said two things are true:
(1) every team has multiple starters playing on rookie contracts. The key here is identifying what players are worth that second contract (and hence a pay raise equal to what other starters at his position make--ie a vet G on his second contract is making more than a G on his rookie contract) and what players/positions can be filled by another rookie contract.
(2) The salary cap is more flexible that we as fans think. There are ways to create space and the future can always be pushed back (until the TV money changes and the cap does down).
Its interesting to me to see how any players the Bears have on rookie contracts and then try and figure out who can be replaced by another rookie contract instead of upgrading to a vet min.
I'm at work so I may miss someone but I see these guys on rookie contracts:
OFF QB Mitch RB Howard RB Cohen TE Shaneen WR Miller G Daniels C Whitehair
DEF DL Nichols OLB Floyd ILB Smith FS Jackson SS Amos
An interesting discussion could be had around projecting who gtrs resigned and who gets replaced by either a draft pick or vet min.We can also add a list of guys making the vet min and seeing if they can be replaced by a rookie contract.
Thing is, if Bears play better and get into PO's guys are gonna get bigger contracts and its gonna be tougher to keep them. Best example is Bryce, he was almost out of the league a year or two back. All of these guys (except I guess Howard) are worth keeping, but there is absolutely no way we can keep all of them. First that comes to mind is Floyd, dont think we can keep him as an OLB opposite to Mack with well over 10+mil per year.
I thought he made an interesting observation. He said two things are true:
(1) every team has multiple starters playing on rookie contracts. The key here is identifying what players are worth that second contract (and hence a pay raise equal to what other starters at his position make--ie a vet G on his second contract is making more than a G on his rookie contract) and what players/positions can be filled by another rookie contract.
(2) The salary cap is more flexible that we as fans think. There are ways to create space and the future can always be pushed back (until the TV money changes and the cap does down).
Its interesting to me to see how any players the Bears have on rookie contracts and then try and figure out who can be replaced by another rookie contract instead of upgrading to a vet min.
I'm at work so I may miss someone but I see these guys on rookie contracts:
OFF QB Mitch RB Howard RB Cohen TE Shaneen WR Miller G Daniels C Whitehair
DEF DL Nichols OLB Floyd ILB Smith FS Jackson SS Amos
An interesting discussion could be had around projecting who gtrs resigned and who gets replaced by either a draft pick or vet min.We can also add a list of guys making the vet min and seeing if they can be replaced by a rookie contract.
Of the above list, Whitehair is the only one to be concerned about this year. And it’s almost certain he will get extended in August like Goldman did last year.
In 2020, it looks right now looks like Jackson, Cohen, and Floyd will be candidates. Shaheen will also be a possibility but as of now he’s not worth keeping because of durability issues. All these things are subject to amendment depending on how the upcoming season goes.
The others really aren’t an issue for concern at this point. Trubisky will technically be a candidate (remember the earliest a rookie contract can be extended is after the 3rd year) next year but the Bears will almost certainly exercise the 5th year option on him like they did with Floyd, which pushes things back. The others (Daniel, Miller, Nichols) are two years MINIMUM away from consideration.
Post by brasilbear on Mar 14, 2019 13:11:05 GMT -6
The list was meant to reflect this idea of having to have players on rookie contracts in order to resign players or add through FA. Some of those guys are years away from resigned. Some won't be resigned.
But it's the rookie contracts that helped pay for Mack, and will help pay for Mitch and Jackson a few years down the line.
From a team building aspect, which of those starters gets resigned when it's time and who doesn't is interesting if we keep in mind that resigning to a second contract affects future resignings and FA.
The list was meant to reflect this idea of having to have players on rookie contracts in order to resign players or add through FA. Some of those guys are years away from resigned. Some won't be resigned.
But it's the rookie contracts that helped pay for Mack, and will help pay for Mitch and Jackson a few years down the line.
From a team building aspect, which of those starters gets resigned when it's time and who doesn't is interesting if we keep in mind that resigning to a second contract affects future resignings and FA.
It really illustrates how, if you draft well, yeah you can afford "extra" talent in FA to fill holes. If you draft poorly, you're constantly paying high prices in FA just to staff a starting roster.
Let's face it, until the few years the Bears were in the latter group. We busted like 4 out of 5 1st round picks for a stretch of time there. Last couple years Pace has really hit his stride in the draft, making solid high-round draft picks (Roq, Miller, Daniel, Whitehair, Trub) and finding hidden gems like Jackson, Cohen, and Nichols in the back half.
The list was meant to reflect this idea of having to have players on rookie contracts in order to resign players or add through FA. Some of those guys are years away from resigned. Some won't be resigned.
But it's the rookie contracts that helped pay for Mack, and will help pay for Mitch and Jackson a few years down the line.
From a team building aspect, which of those starters gets resigned when it's time and who doesn't is interesting if we keep in mind that resigning to a second contract affects future resignings and FA.
that's why you cannot do what pace did last year and be highly agressive in both. it will be hard to re sign players or bring in quality FAs if we have no draft picks on low deals to allow it. pace needs to start valuing those picks or last years FA will bite the team
The list was meant to reflect this idea of having to have players on rookie contracts in order to resign players or add through FA. Some of those guys are years away from resigned. Some won't be resigned.
But it's the rookie contracts that helped pay for Mack, and will help pay for Mitch and Jackson a few years down the line.
From a team building aspect, which of those starters gets resigned when it's time and who doesn't is interesting if we keep in mind that resigning to a second contract affects future resignings and FA.
that's why you cannot do what pace did last year and be highly agressive in both. it will be hard to re sign players or bring in quality FAs if we have no draft picks on low deals to allow it. pace needs to start valuing those picks or last years FA will bite the team
But, with a player like Mack on board we can get some quality FA's for a discount price
The list was meant to reflect this idea of having to have players on rookie contracts in order to resign players or add through FA. Some of those guys are years away from resigned. Some won't be resigned.
But it's the rookie contracts that helped pay for Mack, and will help pay for Mitch and Jackson a few years down the line.
From a team building aspect, which of those starters gets resigned when it's time and who doesn't is interesting if we keep in mind that resigning to a second contract affects future resignings and FA.
that's why you cannot do what pace did last year and be highly agressive in both. it will be hard to re sign players or bring in quality FAs if we have no draft picks on low deals to allow it. pace needs to start valuing those picks or last years FA will bite the team
yep. 100%. for the Mack signing to work out + Robinson/Gabriel/Burton, Pace will need to hit on mid round picks to fill needs. some guys we like will be leaving in order to help pay Mack and the coming extensions.
that's why you cannot do what pace did last year and be highly agressive in both. it will be hard to re sign players or bring in quality FAs if we have no draft picks on low deals to allow it. pace needs to start valuing those picks or last years FA will bite the team
But, with a player like Mack on board we can get some quality FA's for a discount price