Possible 2019 Personnel (Cap) moves

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Possible 2019 Personnel (Cap) moves Jan 16, 2019 7:18:45 GMT -6 seqq34 likes this

Post by dachuckster on Jan 16, 2019 7:18:45 GMT -6

I was looking at Over The Cap and I see several possible roster moves that might make sense for Pace in the effort to sign our existing FA players (Amos, Callahan, etc) and to improve the team.

There are three players that (if released) will provide significant Cap savings.

The first is Kyle Long. Releasing him saves us $7,000,000 in cap space. I am including him purely on the basis of price vs. performance. He has not played a full season for three straight years and has basically missed about half of each of the previous three seasons. Our OL is in the best shape depth wise that it has been in several years. Long is a great guy, a consummate Bear and I am sure a real leader in the locker room. But he has been injured for three straight years.

The second in Dion Simms. He saves us $6,000,000 in cap space. With Shaheen and Braverman, he is IMO completely redundant.

The third is Sam Acho, he saves us just over $2,000,000 in cap space.

This saves us something over $15,000,000 in overall cap room giving use about $35,000,000 in total cap space. And it is estimated that the cap will increase at least $10,000,000 for 2019.

The Bears have also signed the following players to reserve/futures contracts:

LB/Safety Jameer Thurman
OLB/Edge James Vaughters

Both of these were from the Calgary Stampeders (CFL Gray Cup Champs 2018)

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Possible 2019 Personnel (Cap) moves Jan 16, 2019 8:03:54 GMT -6 riczaj01 likes this

Post by butkus3595 on Jan 16, 2019 8:03:54 GMT -6

I think Simms and Acho are the most obvious. Cutting Long would come with $3 mill in dead space...not sure they'd want that to go along with the dead space cutting Parkey would create if they go that route.

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Possible 2019 Personnel (Cap) moves Jan 16, 2019 9:00:03 GMT -6

Post by dachuckster on Jan 16, 2019 9:00:03 GMT -6

Jan 16, 2019 8:03:54 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

I think Simms and Acho are the most obvious. Cutting Long would come with $3 mill in dead space...not sure they'd want that to go along with the dead space cutting Parkey would create if they go that route.

We would have to release Long post June 1, according to OTC to save the full $7 mm.

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Possible 2019 Personnel (Cap) moves Jan 16, 2019 15:47:21 GMT -6 shark86 likes this

Post by paytonisgod on Jan 16, 2019 15:47:21 GMT -6

I'm one of the least sentimental people around when it comes to keeping players past their usefulness but you can't do that to Long. He's been one of the few positives on this team post-Lovie, is a locker room leader, and deserves to at the very least finish out his contract. Also he can still play at a high level. The injury this year was of the flukey variety and not some lingering issue.

The 7 million we would get back for releasing him wouldn't be worth the loss of everything he brings to this team. What could we get for 7 million that would be worth more than Long's presence on the team?

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Possible 2019 Personnel (Cap) moves Jan 16, 2019 16:15:04 GMT -6

Post by dachuckster on Jan 16, 2019 16:15:04 GMT -6

Jan 16, 2019 15:47:21 GMT -6 paytonisgod said:

I'm one of the least sentimental people around when it comes to keeping players past their usefulness but you can't do that to Long. He's been one of the few positives on this team post-Lovie, is a locker room leader, and deserves to at the very least finish out his contract. Also he can still play at a high level. The injury this year was of the flukey variety and not some lingering issue.

The 7 million we would get back for releasing him wouldn't be worth the loss of everything he brings to this team. What could we get for 7 million that would be worth more than Long's presence on the team?

What happens if he ends up injured again in 2019? Even if it is unrelated to a previous injury.

We are at a point that no other Bears team has been in (at least with the new CBA). We have relatively low cap space and we need to sign our exiting FAs as well as possibly trying to sign some additional veteran FAs (we have a limited number of draft picks). I agree it is a tough decision but it could be the most important one that Pace has to mike this off-season.

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Post by mpbears68 on Jan 16, 2019 16:31:01 GMT -6

Jan 16, 2019 16:15:04 GMT -6 dachuckster said:

Jan 16, 2019 15:47:21 GMT -6 paytonisgod said:

I'm one of the least sentimental people around when it comes to keeping players past their usefulness but you can't do that to Long. He's been one of the few positives on this team post-Lovie, is a locker room leader, and deserves to at the very least finish out his contract. Also he can still play at a high level. The injury this year was of the flukey variety and not some lingering issue.

The 7 million we would get back for releasing him wouldn't be worth the loss of everything he brings to this team. What could we get for 7 million that would be worth more than Long's presence on the team?

What happens if he ends up injured again in 2019? Even if it is unrelated to a previous injury.

We are at a point that no other Bears team has been in (at least with the new CBA). We have relatively low cap space and we need to sign our exiting FAs as well as possibly trying to sign some additional veteran FAs (we have a limited number of draft picks). I agree it is a tough decision but it could be the most important one that Pace has to mike this off-season.

If you cut him, then you have to replace him. Would he re-negotiate his contract? Dunno

I agree its a tough decision on Long. Sims and Acho are no-brainers and both as good as gone. Even keeping Long (and releasing the Sims/Acho), we should have roughly $30m in cap space once the increase kicks in. Our draft class this year will cost very little. I'd be in favor of using that space to re-sign and extend who we need to (Callahan, Amos, Whitehair) and calling it good. We don't need to sign any expensive FAs this year. Maybe a few depth pieces, that's it.

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